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	<title>Comments on: Lost &#8211; &#8220;The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Lost - &#8220;Lafleur&#8221; &#171; Cultural Learnings</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lost - &#8220;Lafleur&#8221; &#171; Cultural Learnings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has been said that the last two episodes of Lost, &#8220;316&#8243; and &#8220;The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham,&#8221; were sort of a launching point for the rest of the show&#8217;s fifth season, the one bit of major [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been said that the last two episodes of Lost, &#8220;316&#8243; and &#8220;The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham,&#8221; were sort of a launching point for the rest of the show&#8217;s fifth season, the one bit of major [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved these last two episodes, more than any episode this season.  I feel like they are serving as a pilot for the rest of the series, bifurcated into two episodes between Jack and Locke, representing their sort of rebirth.  Of course, they haven&#039;t completely changed, but their respective episodes have shown that they&#039;ve made that first important leap - overcoming their rigid adherence to their conviction.  

And so the rest of the series is not about Good vs. Evil or Widmore vs. Ben, but the Chessplayers vs. Pawns (Losties) where the Losties are led by new Jack and new Locke, working together, now able to access the secrets of the island because of their new openness, (and in Locke&#039;s case, adjustment of priorities).

I also liked the slight development of Widmore.  Lost has a really great way with language.  When Locke asks if he was the leader of the &quot;Others,&quot; Widmore says, &quot;They weren&#039;t the &#039;others&#039; to me, they were my people.&quot;  And later, he notes the rationale behind the alias &quot;Bentham.&quot;  Widmore holds grammar and language in high opinion.  I have a feeling he&#039;s the opposite of Ben, psychologically, if not morally.  Whereas Ben has learned to survive by constantly lying to always reserve potential leverage, Widmore doesn&#039;t fear any outcome and never feels the need to lie at all - (although he lies by omission to manipulate Locke.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved these last two episodes, more than any episode this season.  I feel like they are serving as a pilot for the rest of the series, bifurcated into two episodes between Jack and Locke, representing their sort of rebirth.  Of course, they haven&#8217;t completely changed, but their respective episodes have shown that they&#8217;ve made that first important leap &#8211; overcoming their rigid adherence to their conviction.  </p>
<p>And so the rest of the series is not about Good vs. Evil or Widmore vs. Ben, but the Chessplayers vs. Pawns (Losties) where the Losties are led by new Jack and new Locke, working together, now able to access the secrets of the island because of their new openness, (and in Locke&#8217;s case, adjustment of priorities).</p>
<p>I also liked the slight development of Widmore.  Lost has a really great way with language.  When Locke asks if he was the leader of the &#8220;Others,&#8221; Widmore says, &#8220;They weren&#8217;t the &#8216;others&#8217; to me, they were my people.&#8221;  And later, he notes the rationale behind the alias &#8220;Bentham.&#8221;  Widmore holds grammar and language in high opinion.  I have a feeling he&#8217;s the opposite of Ben, psychologically, if not morally.  Whereas Ben has learned to survive by constantly lying to always reserve potential leverage, Widmore doesn&#8217;t fear any outcome and never feels the need to lie at all &#8211; (although he lies by omission to manipulate Locke.)</p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mathias, I&#039;m done trying to deal with the various time differences and the theories about them: I have no idea when Sun and Lapidus are, and I really don&#039;t feel like we have enough information to figure it out right now. And yeah - I too noticed that particular image of Sayid matching up with the work he was doing when Locke showed up - maybe he&#039;s just slow. Another connection there, though - a coincidence that Locke was a Jesus-figure of sorts in the episode and that Sayid was doing carpentry?

Thanks for the discussion everyone! I agree about the end scene&#039;s darkness, Andy, and Calamity I also enjoy the show&#039;s opennes and vagueness in moments like this. Makes watching it (and writing about it) much more fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathias, I&#8217;m done trying to deal with the various time differences and the theories about them: I have no idea when Sun and Lapidus are, and I really don&#8217;t feel like we have enough information to figure it out right now. And yeah &#8211; I too noticed that particular image of Sayid matching up with the work he was doing when Locke showed up &#8211; maybe he&#8217;s just slow. Another connection there, though &#8211; a coincidence that Locke was a Jesus-figure of sorts in the episode and that Sayid was doing carpentry?</p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion everyone! I agree about the end scene&#8217;s darkness, Andy, and Calamity I also enjoy the show&#8217;s opennes and vagueness in moments like this. Makes watching it (and writing about it) much more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alpert is the question here: we still are not sure where he sits in all of this, and that he exists in every time period and influenced all of them makes him the really important player. Nestor Carbonnell is sticking around for a while, so we should get some answers at some point - this is one backstory that can&#039;t just be told by sending our characters to his time period considering that he&#039;ll be just the same there was he is now. Wherever &quot;now&quot; is, right?

And Aaron, that&#039;s a really interesting parallel - am curious to see if we get that played out more when Locke gets his hands on Ben.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpert is the question here: we still are not sure where he sits in all of this, and that he exists in every time period and influenced all of them makes him the really important player. Nestor Carbonnell is sticking around for a while, so we should get some answers at some point &#8211; this is one backstory that can&#8217;t just be told by sending our characters to his time period considering that he&#8217;ll be just the same there was he is now. Wherever &#8220;now&#8221; is, right?</p>
<p>And Aaron, that&#8217;s a really interesting parallel &#8211; am curious to see if we get that played out more when Locke gets his hands on Ben.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathias</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathias]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The boat that was missing at the Hydra beach, was the boat that the Lefties found on the beach on the Island, &quot;taken by the pilot&quot;, Lapidus, &quot;and a woman&quot;, Sun? That means Lapidus and Sun was on the Island for a couple of timeflashes and are now probably in the same time as Jin, Sawyer, Juliet, but not nessecerialy at the same place. That leaves Sayid unaccounted for, (and Bernard and Rose). Will the new survivors also experience timeflashes and what will they make of it? And are they the ones shooting at the Lefties when they took the boat? Or are the ones shooting, the ones who left the 3 boats at the Hydra station beach?
The picture of Sayid in the dossier must have been taken just the day before, as he is working on the same hole in the roof as when Locke is coming to visit him. Modern digital technology and the web, great isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boat that was missing at the Hydra beach, was the boat that the Lefties found on the beach on the Island, &#8220;taken by the pilot&#8221;, Lapidus, &#8220;and a woman&#8221;, Sun? That means Lapidus and Sun was on the Island for a couple of timeflashes and are now probably in the same time as Jin, Sawyer, Juliet, but not nessecerialy at the same place. That leaves Sayid unaccounted for, (and Bernard and Rose). Will the new survivors also experience timeflashes and what will they make of it? And are they the ones shooting at the Lefties when they took the boat? Or are the ones shooting, the ones who left the 3 boats at the Hydra station beach?<br />
The picture of Sayid in the dossier must have been taken just the day before, as he is working on the same hole in the roof as when Locke is coming to visit him. Modern digital technology and the web, great isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: calamity kim</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calamity kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just curious if the Neon Hotel sign was an anagram- I assumed it was but am unable to come up with a cryptic message that feels right. I thought this episode was exceptionally well acted and written and answers as many questions as it brings, in true Lost style. Thank you for this well written and thoughtful post.
I love the way this show never reveals it&#039;s complete hand and leaves you guessing about truth, lies, fate and who is bluffing the best!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious if the Neon Hotel sign was an anagram- I assumed it was but am unable to come up with a cryptic message that feels right. I thought this episode was exceptionally well acted and written and answers as many questions as it brings, in true Lost style. Thank you for this well written and thoughtful post.<br />
I love the way this show never reveals it&#8217;s complete hand and leaves you guessing about truth, lies, fate and who is bluffing the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That final shot of Locke hung up was VERY disturbing. Infact that whole scene in that hotel building was very disturbing. It has to be the darkest scene in Lost hstory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That final shot of Locke hung up was VERY disturbing. Infact that whole scene in that hotel building was very disturbing. It has to be the darkest scene in Lost hstory.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The murdered by strangling is a nice parallel Aaron, but I don&#039;t particularly feel that Locke exactly backs down from killing himself in the same way he won&#039;t kill his father – this was much more due to the extraordinary intervention of Ben.

Myles&#039;, you haven&#039;t mentioned anything here about Richard Alpert with good reason considering he doesn&#039;t even appear. But this episode further brought question into my eyes about his nature and his story. If we are to believe Charles Widmore, he at some stage becomes leader of the &#039;others&#039;. Is this in opposition to Alpert who appears in the 70s flashback to be their leader? And while Alpert leads another group of rebel looks types in the woods when we meet Benjamin Linus as a young boy is he leading some kind of splinter group? In the Losties original time on the island Alpert answers to Ben until he decides it is time to anoint John as the leader they&#039;ve been waiting for.

With every episode this just becomes a bigger and more significant question for me, especially as John has been sent by Richard Alpert – not Widmore or Linus who are instead manipulators in this mission – to bring back the O6. I dream of a Richard Alpert centric episode and it&#039;ll be a crime if we don&#039;t get one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The murdered by strangling is a nice parallel Aaron, but I don&#8217;t particularly feel that Locke exactly backs down from killing himself in the same way he won&#8217;t kill his father – this was much more due to the extraordinary intervention of Ben.</p>
<p>Myles&#8217;, you haven&#8217;t mentioned anything here about Richard Alpert with good reason considering he doesn&#8217;t even appear. But this episode further brought question into my eyes about his nature and his story. If we are to believe Charles Widmore, he at some stage becomes leader of the &#8216;others&#8217;. Is this in opposition to Alpert who appears in the 70s flashback to be their leader? And while Alpert leads another group of rebel looks types in the woods when we meet Benjamin Linus as a young boy is he leading some kind of splinter group? In the Losties original time on the island Alpert answers to Ben until he decides it is time to anoint John as the leader they&#8217;ve been waiting for.</p>
<p>With every episode this just becomes a bigger and more significant question for me, especially as John has been sent by Richard Alpert – not Widmore or Linus who are instead manipulators in this mission – to bring back the O6. I dream of a Richard Alpert centric episode and it&#8217;ll be a crime if we don&#8217;t get one.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is rather random and insignificant, but I found it kind of interesting when I noticed this: back in season 3, Ben told Locke that he had to kill his father.  Now, in season 5, Alpert tells Locke that he has to die.  In both cases, Locke comes very close to carrying out those missions himself, but ultimately backs down.  However, Sawyer ended up killing Locke&#039;s father, and Ben ended up killing Locke.  And both father and son were murdered by strangling.

Again, it doesn&#039;t really mean anything, but it is somewhat ironic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is rather random and insignificant, but I found it kind of interesting when I noticed this: back in season 3, Ben told Locke that he had to kill his father.  Now, in season 5, Alpert tells Locke that he has to die.  In both cases, Locke comes very close to carrying out those missions himself, but ultimately backs down.  However, Sawyer ended up killing Locke&#8217;s father, and Ben ended up killing Locke.  And both father and son were murdered by strangling.</p>
<p>Again, it doesn&#8217;t really mean anything, but it is somewhat ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://cultural-learnings.com/2009/02/26/lost-the-life-and-death-of-jeremy-bentham/#comment-11706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing to add that I read elsewhere and, well, sort of blew my mind:

Alan Sepinwall has pointed out, quite logically, that the crash victims of 316 appear to be in the Hydra station (they were on another island separated from the main one). I missed this, but mainly because the TV I was watching it on was pretty cruddy, and it looked like a sort of dark cave the entire time. He also notes that they appear to be in the present (the presence of the boards, the abandoned nature of the station itself), which would partially explain why Ben had them all building a runway - for Flight 316, or any other flight, to land on. But there&#039;s a lot of leaps there that will take a rewatch to decipher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to add that I read elsewhere and, well, sort of blew my mind:</p>
<p>Alan Sepinwall has pointed out, quite logically, that the crash victims of 316 appear to be in the Hydra station (they were on another island separated from the main one). I missed this, but mainly because the TV I was watching it on was pretty cruddy, and it looked like a sort of dark cave the entire time. He also notes that they appear to be in the present (the presence of the boards, the abandoned nature of the station itself), which would partially explain why Ben had them all building a runway &#8211; for Flight 316, or any other flight, to land on. But there&#8217;s a lot of leaps there that will take a rewatch to decipher.</p>
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